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DC Noise 109 – Jason Todd vs. Grandma Knudsen

December 10th, 2010

Mike and Keith discuss Christmas parties and much much more.

Red Hood: Lost Days 1-6
Superman/Batman 77

  1. Mónica
    December 10th, 2010 at 09:24 | #1

    I haven't heard the podcast, but I really want to know How did you came up with "Jason Todd VS Grandma Knudsen"?

  2. December 10th, 2010 at 12:39 | #2

    You have to listen to figure that one out.

  3. Mónica
    December 10th, 2010 at 15:17 | #3

    Oh boy! I just listened to the show, the Grandma made me laugh out loud.

    Good show, thanks for review REd Hood, I like this series a lot. I think Judd Winnick is the best writer for Jason Todd.

    Talia was really manipulative, yeah he was older, but just bearly legal.

    I wonder if Bruce knows about that situation.

    Superman/Batman was fun. Made me laugh a couple of times.

    Keep the good work

  4. badsoul
    December 11th, 2010 at 02:27 | #4

    Hi Guys. Cool episode.

    I realy enjoyed the red hood mini. Winick writes a great and creepy Jason.

    I found the superman/batman issue to be very enjoyable. The characterization of both characters were sopt on.

    Also I hate to repeat myself (see my comment on episode 85) but I now believe more than ever that damian is Jason Todd's son!

  5. Mónica
    December 11th, 2010 at 16:02 | #5


    I thought about you when I was reading the issue

  6. badsoul
    December 12th, 2010 at 04:47 | #6


    lol! thats funny!

    and what do you think. I would like to hear your opinion on the matter.

  7. Mónica
    December 13th, 2010 at 10:24 | #7


    Well, my argument was, that hasn't been that long. Because Damian is 8 or 10 years old. And the events of Red Hood LD weren't that long,but….

    Damian was born in a lab. Wasn't he?

    So maybe Talia speed up the baby growth.

    Very distrurbing

  8. badsoul
    December 13th, 2010 at 23:28 | #8


    yeah thats what I thought too, growth acceleration would make sense. Grant Morrison's mind is a very creative but scary place!

  9. December 17th, 2010 at 04:11 | #9


    I am glad you found it funny Monica. The series was one of the books that we had several requests to review. It was a very good series and filled in a lot of holes. I have always been a fan of Jason since he throw the fat guy off of the building for having diplomatic immunity.

  10. December 17th, 2010 at 04:15 | #10


    Badsoul I don't think Damian is the son of Jason. I think Bruce would have checked the DNA immediately don't you? I just find that Bruce's personality he would have checked everything even though it may have been off panel. However they did set it up so this could be the case if they wanted to throw a curve ball into the mix.

  11. badsoul
    December 17th, 2010 at 07:02 | #11


    You are right. But that happened. Bruce made a dna test and did not reveal the result to anyone. In the first issue of Batman RIP Tim Deake asks Alfred abouth the results, however Alfred states that it is not his place to reveal the outcome of the dna test and that in time Bruce would announce the result!

  12. December 18th, 2010 at 03:31 | #12


    I read so many comics that I sometimes forget all that happened. Having said that then I think that this could be the case and out of obligation to Jason he has allowed Damian into his world. They sure set it up in that direction in this mini if that is the case. Now the real question who else has had sex with Talia. I believe she got banged by two men in this series alone 😉

  13. badsoul
    December 19th, 2010 at 00:38 | #13

    Yeah I konw how much you read (I also listen to Geek Brunch), its amazing!!

    Where do you store all that stuff? Do you have a cool comics room or do you throw stuff out?

  14. December 19th, 2010 at 04:33 | #14

    I have a basement that looks like the warehouse in Raiders of the Lost Ark. So if you think that Jason might be the father than why do you think Bruce has let him into his life? Guilt because of what happened to Jason? A plot to get Ras A Ghul and Talia in check? So many to think of. Do you think Talia still loves Bruce? I do.

  15. December 19th, 2010 at 04:50 | #15

    PS. Thanks for listening to Geek Brunch. The guys and I appreciate it.

  16. badsoul
    December 19th, 2010 at 05:03 | #16


    Well, first of all Bruce is at his core a noble, generous and helping person. He truly wants to help Damian. After seeing what Damian is capable of in the Batman&son story line, he chose to show him something different from what he experienced with his mother and the league of assasins. He wants to shape the potential that the kid has into something good and offer him another path in life.

    Another reason is guilt (as you mentioned). He couldn't help Jason and he would not be able to help him in the future. But he can help damian and prevent him from becoming like Jason.

    In an RIP issue of outsiders (after batmans apparent death) every member of the bat-family is shown a video of Bruce. In this video Bruce gives instructions to the various members of the batfamily as how to proceed after his death. In that issue Dick Grayson is also shown a video, however we did not get to see what batman told Grayson. I like to think that Bruce revealed Damians dna test to Grayson and instructed him to take care of Damian and make him Robin.

    One last thing: I do think that Talia still loves Batman. If she wouldn't she would ignore him but she doesn't. She still wants his attention.

    Sorry for the very long answer! 😉

  17. badsoul
    December 19th, 2010 at 05:04 | #17

    PS: youre welcome. Geek Brunch is a very fun podcast. I'm glad I found it.

  18. December 19th, 2010 at 05:10 | #18


    Great answer and thanks for jogging the my old memory 🙂

  19. Johnny T Impulse (Ky
    January 2nd, 2011 at 15:47 | #19

    I know am extremely late but i only just listened to this episode. But firstly. Talia is a whore. I swear Jason is at least 17 or 18 around this time. Am kinda confused about Jason nearly killing the Joker and the chickening out. Then in the Under the Hood, he chickens out again when it comes to killing the Joker again. But beside that, it was a good story. Oh yeah by the way i actually voted for Superboy. Kid-Flash would have been my second vote.

  20. January 2nd, 2011 at 16:11 | #20

    @Kyle I have been thinking about the Jason/Joker problem for a while. If you remember he was brought back by Superboy hitting that wall while in the "place beyond" (I don't remember what they called it). Since for the most part it was powered by the existence of Superman (Kal-L), I wonder if some of his "soul" wasn't passed along when Jason came back. Kal'L keeps him from "going too far" and that's why The Joker is still running around breathing and such.

    Of course it is just a theory, but it makes as much sense as Jason going from murderous rage to wuss "just because". What do you think?

  21. Johnny T Impulse (Ky
    January 3rd, 2011 at 10:17 | #21

    @Derek I totally agree with you theory and it does makes sense. Because there is no reason for him not just go and kill the Joker while he is on the crapper. It just shows that he has some good still inside him. I personally i think the only that can write Jason Todd, everyone else doesnt know how to use him. Every other writer, writes him as a psyco. which he clearly aint. Thats one of the main problems i had with Battle for the Cowl.

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